Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
van naaldje tot draadje aangetoond
English translation:
demonstrated from beginning to end /start to finish
Dutch term
van naaldje tot draadje aangetoond
it's not 'to demonstrate from head to toe', is it? Thanks for your help!
3 | demonstrated from beginning to end /start to finish | Verginia Ophof |
4 | given itemized details, meticulously shown | Bryan Crumpler |
3 +1 | proven meticuously/in detail | André Linsen |
Nov 16, 2009 14:53: Verginia Ophof changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/725171">Jacqueline Sieben's</a> old entry - "van naaldje tot draadje aangetoond"" to ""demonstrated from beginning to end /start to finish""
Non-PRO (2): writeaway, Bryan Crumpler
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Proposed translations
demonstrated from beginning to end /start to finish
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Note added at 46 mins (2009-11-15 00:58:55 GMT)
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van kop tot staart, so perhaps "from top to bottom"
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Note added at 59 mins (2009-11-15 01:12:34 GMT)
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in Dutch however, it is naald tot draad and means point by point, which might fit it better here......
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writeaway
: (van naaldje tot draadje). (van kop tot staart). (van hooivork naar riek). (van man naar vrouw (getransformeerd)). (van A tot Z). (van Pot naar Park) www.let.leidenuniv.nl/pdf/lucl/lwpl/4.1/poss.pdf
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Thanks writeaway !
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given itemized details, meticulously shown
"Demonstration" would entail some display of action taking place (as in showing how XXX went to the bank and put in his/her ATM card and transferred the funds to the appropriate account) rather than showing proof of something having been done (handing in copies of bank receipts or bank statements or a list of corresponding payments).
So, I'd perhaps opt for a solution that doesn't include the term "demonstrate".
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Note added at 12 hrs (2009-11-15 12:44:51 GMT)
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itemization => providing a list, summarizing the payments, to whom, to what account etc. (perhaps with receipts)
meticulously showing => providing thorough and complete details (not necessarily in list form), which proves to whom, to what account any payments would have been made.
XXX, on the other hand, has given itemized details accounting for all of the payments required in the contract. Total amount remitted is even in excess of what was due.
XXX has meticulously shown that all of the required payments for the contract have been correctly remitted. The totals are even in excess of what was due.
Meticulously is quite nice, and does sound better than "from beginning to end", but I have chosen the latter because it is closer to the source text. Thanks for your input! |
proven meticuously/in detail
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Tina Vonhof (X)
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Verginia Ophof
: therefore I ammended to Point by point, as in sewing/embroidery
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