May 11, 2021 09:35
3 yrs ago
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Serbian term

šta zna dete šta je dvesta kila

Serbian to English Art/Literary Slang sayings, jokes, idioms
Obviously a reference to the well-known joke, meaning you succeeded in doing something despite or because of the fact that you were ignorant as to how hard it in fact was. In the specific case it refers not to stealing bits of railway but to enrolling in a prestigious university not realising how high the entry barrier was. But I can't think of an English idiom, if there is one. I thought of "more luck than sense" or maybe "more brawn than brains", but neither is quite right, any ideas?

Discussion

Daryo May 11, 2021:
In the original joke there is not the slightest hint that

"šta zna dete šta je 200 /300 / 500 kila"

would have anything to do with "succeeding against the odds" nor anything of a similar vein.

Context?
Daryo May 11, 2021:
Well you got there a proper brain twister!

And more importantly a "small problem" - that you have misinterpreted the joke!

In the context of the original joke it means something completely else! No real "superhuman achievement" to be seen anywhere, only hare-brained excuses.

In the joke the kid DIDN'T move a 200 kg piece of stolen metal - a few adults did it together, and are offering a pretty unplausible explanation as to who else could've done it.

It's a very old joke, but in case you don'y know it, here it is:

Šta zna dete šta je 500 kila

Ukrao neko šine sa pruge u blizini ciganskog sela. Dođe policija u selo i jedan pandur pita Cigu:
– Je li Cigo, gde su šine?
– Ne znam, majke mi – odgovara Ciga.
– Cigo, poslednji put te pitam, gde su šine? – nervozno će policajac.
– A ne znam, majke mi. Eno su neka deca tamo, možda su ona uzela…
– Ajde Cigo, ne lupaj – gde će deca da ukradu šine od 500 kila!
Na to će Ciga:
– Ma šta zna dete šta je 500 kila…
https://svet-scandal.rs/svetplus/sta-zna-dete-sta-je-500-kil...

Can you give the full sentence where this was used, to make you think that this means what you say it means?

Proposed translations

+1
1 hr

fool

It can also refer to someone's foolishness and stubbornness to achieve something that others would not even think about:
- Fools rush in.
A very good and challenging question, indeed! :)
Example sentence:

Fools rush in where angles fear to tread.

Peer comment(s):

agree Pavle Perencevic : "Fools rush in" sounds close in meaning, although it's a completely different register from "šta zna dete šta je dvesta kila".
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bite off more than one can chew

Just a suggestion and more in the link.
Peer comment(s):

agree milena beba
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disagree Daryo : doesn't agree with the explanations given by Asker ("you succeeded in doing something ...") - that would apply to s.o. who failed // even less to do with the meaning in the original joke, but that's another problem.
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ignorance is bliss

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