Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

area penale

English translation:

criminal (offenders)

Added to glossary by Josh Goldsmith
Nov 3, 2010 18:48
13 yrs ago
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Italian term

area penale

Italian to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
I'm trying to determine what they mean by area penale in the following sentence. It's from http://www.progettojonathan.com/paginecomdett.asp?titolo=Com...

La comunità ospita minori di sesso maschile dell’area penale e civile in età compresa tra quattordici e ventuno anni.
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Nov 5, 2010 10:25: Josh Goldsmith Created KOG entry

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Josh Goldsmith Nov 4, 2010:
You could be right. I was reading the generalized page about the various "comunità" that are part of this project, and it looks like their populations often also include poor, at-risk youth and adolescents who are sometimes sent to these "comuniità" through the "Ministero della Giustizia"; sometimes the reasoning is because they are criminal offenders, and sometimes it is just because they are at-risk, abanadoned, etc. Unfortunately, I didn't find any more specific information on this particular "comunità" on their web page. (General link: http://www.progettojonathan.com/paginecom.asp).
Also, I found an article about the community house, with a bit more info on their participants: http://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/...
philgoddard Nov 4, 2010:
Maybe it means that some of them have criminal records and some don't.

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criminal (offenders)

I think you need a paraphrase here: "The community houses/hosts male underage criminal and civil offenders between the ages of..."

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Note added at 15 hrs (2010-11-04 09:52:46 GMT)
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Here is an example of the use of "civil offender." Agreed, it's perhaps not that common...but it is used, including in published legal textbooks:

"For civil offenses, a citation or "notice to appear" might be handed--or simply mailed--to the offender. Generally, the civil offender is not required to sign the citation under penalty of arrest for refusal to sign. Failure to appear as directed, however, can subject the civil offender to penalties. Criminal infractions are administered by the courts; civil infractions are often administered by non-judicial administrative agencies."
From "Paralegal Studies: An Introduction," by Paul D. Jordan, p.241
http://books.google.it/books?id=b2Q5v0_se8QC&pg=PA241&lpg=PA...

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Perhaps another paraphrase which would avoid the use of "civil offender" is:
"The community houses juvenile males between the ages of ... who have committed both civil and criminal offenses."

"Civil and criminal offenses" is certainly much more frequent, with 238,000 hits on google.
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agree philgoddard : I doon't agree with "civil offenders/offences", but strictly speaking that's not what the questioner asked for.
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agree Simo Blom
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criminal law

in the criminal and civil juvinal law
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