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Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

abbattere pregiudizi e luoghi comuni

English translation:

overcome prejudices and commonplaces

Added to glossary by Tom in London
Jul 28, 2009 18:58
14 yrs ago
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Italian term

abbattere pregiudizi e luoghi comuni

Italian to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
this is the final phrase in a court case for adoption of two brothers. I want it to be a winning phrase but I cant seem to get luoghi comuni right (common places?)

Full phrase is "abbattere pregiudizi e luoghi comuni rispetto alla motivazione dell'abbandono"

TIAFYH
Proposed translations (English)
4 +6 overcome prejudices and commonplaces
4 +6 to conquer prejudice and preconceived notions
4 +4 overcome the prejudices and stereotyping
4 tear down prejudices and stereotypes
4 to demolish prejudices and clichés
3 avoid prejudices and common places
Change log

Aug 2, 2009 06:44: Tom in London Created KOG entry

Discussion

SJLD Jul 28, 2009:
it's such a pity one can't discuss words here or give one's opinions without people getting miffed. This place is seriously lacking in intellectual exchange. Never mind. I get that elsewhere.
Anyway, have a look at how "commonplace" and "commonplaces" are used in documents you find on the web. I'm not talking about dictionaries. It is not a word in everyday use or readily understood outside of academic circles.
With that, I'm off to read Crime and Punishment.
Enjoy your evenings one and all :-)
Giuseppe Bellone Jul 28, 2009:
Thanks for pointing this out. We all know even too well how much one can rely on dictionaries, after all! Sad to say! :) But one has to rely on something somewhere sometimes. :)
SJLD Jul 28, 2009:
so? I know the word exists and what it means, but it's an awful word IMO and doesn't sound right at all, especially in the plural.
Giuseppe Bellone Jul 28, 2009:
Here again is in the plural form http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/commonplace
Language mysteries! :)
SJLD Jul 28, 2009:
exactly trite comments, banalities - but not commonplaces, pur-lees :-)
Marco Solinas Jul 28, 2009:
An obvious or trite comment From my copy of Merriam Webster's Collegiate dictionary: Commonplace, n. ......2, a: an obvious or trite comment
SJLD Jul 28, 2009:
seriously though... who uses "commonplaces" as a noun? I'm an extremely well-read person and have rarely encountered it. Wouldn't "banalities" be better? But what does the author really mean? More like "preconceived ideas" or "common beliefs", no?

Proposed translations

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overcome prejudices and commonplaces

try this. "Luogo comune" has nothing to do with a physical place.

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Note added at 7 mins (2009-07-28 19:05:57 GMT)
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"commonplace" is one word. A "common place" would be a vulgar place frequented by disreputable people :)
Peer comment(s):
agree Giuseppe Bellone
3 mins
agree Simon Charass
5 mins
agree Armilla (X)
1 hr
thanks Beppe, Simon, Armilla, for knowing that "commonplace" is a word, a very fine one, and widely used :)
agree Fran Cesca
12 hrs
agree nimopaz
1 day 2 hrs
agree Alessandro di Francia (X)
1 day 21 hrs
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8 mins

avoid prejudices and common places

An idea.

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Note added at 9 min (2009-07-28 19:07:40 GMT)
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Sorry Tom is right, ONE word!!

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Note added at 17 min (2009-07-28 19:16:26 GMT)
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i.e. "commonplaces".
I never drink but I must be drunk!
Peer comment(s):
neutral Tom in London : or maybe "mustbedrunk" :)
1 hr
Thanks, I suppose I need a long sleep! Night! :)
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+4
56 mins

overcome the prejudices and stereotyping

Peer comment(s):
agree SJLD : that's better ;-)
2 mins
agree blattanzi
14 hrs
agree Rosanna Palermo : "Stifle" comes to mind as an alternative for overcome
19 hrs
agree Ashish (HIN,ENG) Nadia (ITA)
4254 days
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+6
1 hr

to conquer prejudice and preconceived notions

just another idea
Peer comment(s):
agree SJLD : nice, someone on my side - did you read the discussion Patricia?
7 mins
Yes, agree that the commonplace use of commonplaces does not seem very common to me either!
agree julie-h : yes, this is the best and I agree with SJLD re the discussion.
1 hr
agree Jim Tucker (X) : yes, but would push for "preconceptions"
4 hrs
Thanks, yes 'preconceptions' flows well
agree Fiorsam : I prefer preconceived notitions to preconceptions
16 hrs
agree Michele Fauble
1 day 11 hrs
agree Ashish (HIN,ENG) Nadia (ITA)
4254 days
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3 hrs

tear down prejudices and stereotypes

Another option could be "tear down prejudices and commonplaces", though I prefer the first one.
It is just another possible translation which, in my opionion, strengthens the sense of "abbattere".
Example sentence:

"She helped to tear down prejudices about AIDS." ""We hope that by highlighting the positive, common values we can tear down prejudices and build mutual understanding".

Reference:

http://www.umbc.edu/prestige/fulbright_2004.html

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14 hrs

to demolish prejudices and clichés

pithy enough? :)
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