Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
concetto ripreso *da*
English translation:
derived from/borrowed/ originated /evolved
Added to glossary by
Rosanna Palermo
May 16, 2006 12:39
17 yrs ago
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Italian term
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concetto ripreso *da*
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Ho un dubbio linguistico che "m'accora"...
la frase e':
dopo molti anni di ricerche XXX mette a punto il prodotto applicando il concetto di ZZZ ripreso da YY (un'altro prodotto)
ho tradotto cosi':
applying the concept of ZZZ resumed by ...
il mio dubbio e':
resumed *by*...or...resumed *from* ?
grazie, magari e' una sottigliezza e mi sto perdendo in un bicchier d'acqua...ma vorrei essere certa.
la frase e':
dopo molti anni di ricerche XXX mette a punto il prodotto applicando il concetto di ZZZ ripreso da YY (un'altro prodotto)
ho tradotto cosi':
applying the concept of ZZZ resumed by ...
il mio dubbio e':
resumed *by*...or...resumed *from* ?
grazie, magari e' una sottigliezza e mi sto perdendo in un bicchier d'acqua...ma vorrei essere certa.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +1 | derived from/borrowed/ originated /evolved |
Rosanna Palermo
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| 4 +1 | Not resumed |
Claire Titchmarsh (X)
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| 3 | from |
KayW
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Proposed translations
+1
19 mins
Rosanna Palermo
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Accuracy matters - La precisione conta
Native in: Italian 
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Works in: Italian to English
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derived from/borrowed/ originated /evolved
5 entries found for derived.
Main Entry: derivative
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: borrowed
Synonyms: acquired, ancestral, caused, cognate, connate, copied, derivate, derivational, derived, evolved, hereditary, imitative, inferential, inferred, not original, obtained, plagiaristic, plagiarized, procured, rehashed, second-hand, secondary, subordinate, uninventive, unoriginal
Antonyms: inventive, new, original, primary, unborrowed, underivative
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.2.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.
Main Entry: foreign
Part of Speech: adjective 1
Definition: alien
Synonyms: adopted, alien, alienated, antipodal, barbarian, barbaric, borrowed, derived, different, distant, estranged, exiled, exotic, expatriate, external, extralocal, extraneous, extrinsic, far, far-fetched, far-off, faraway, from abroad, immigrant, imported, inaccessible, nonnative, nonresident, not domestic, not native, offshore, outlandish, outside, overseas, remote, strange, transoceanic, unaccustomed, unexplored, unfamiliar, unknown
Antonyms: domestic, native, natural
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.2.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.
Main Entry: secondary
Part of Speech: adjective 2
Definition: derivative
Synonyms: auxiliary, borrowed, consequent, dependent, derivate, derivational, derived, developed, eventual, indirect, proximate, resultant, resulting, second-hand, subordinate, subsequent, subsidiary, vicarious
Antonyms: direct, primary
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.2.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.
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Note added at 22 mins (2006-05-16 13:02:19 GMT)
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Tex to resume is used mainly to indicate that an activity/action stopped and then started again.(resume walking, resume driving) I think in this case the concept was "evolved" not resumed
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Note added at 23 mins (2006-05-16 13:03:37 GMT)
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from not by
"the concept was borrowed from XXX by YYY" if YYY is the one doing the borrowing
Main Entry: derivative
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: borrowed
Synonyms: acquired, ancestral, caused, cognate, connate, copied, derivate, derivational, derived, evolved, hereditary, imitative, inferential, inferred, not original, obtained, plagiaristic, plagiarized, procured, rehashed, second-hand, secondary, subordinate, uninventive, unoriginal
Antonyms: inventive, new, original, primary, unborrowed, underivative
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.2.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.
Main Entry: foreign
Part of Speech: adjective 1
Definition: alien
Synonyms: adopted, alien, alienated, antipodal, barbarian, barbaric, borrowed, derived, different, distant, estranged, exiled, exotic, expatriate, external, extralocal, extraneous, extrinsic, far, far-fetched, far-off, faraway, from abroad, immigrant, imported, inaccessible, nonnative, nonresident, not domestic, not native, offshore, outlandish, outside, overseas, remote, strange, transoceanic, unaccustomed, unexplored, unfamiliar, unknown
Antonyms: domestic, native, natural
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.2.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.
Main Entry: secondary
Part of Speech: adjective 2
Definition: derivative
Synonyms: auxiliary, borrowed, consequent, dependent, derivate, derivational, derived, developed, eventual, indirect, proximate, resultant, resulting, second-hand, subordinate, subsequent, subsidiary, vicarious
Antonyms: direct, primary
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.2.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.
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Note added at 22 mins (2006-05-16 13:02:19 GMT)
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Tex to resume is used mainly to indicate that an activity/action stopped and then started again.(resume walking, resume driving) I think in this case the concept was "evolved" not resumed
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Note added at 23 mins (2006-05-16 13:03:37 GMT)
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from not by
"the concept was borrowed from XXX by YYY" if YYY is the one doing the borrowing
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Alexandra Speirs
: yes, but XXX .... applying the concept..... borrowed from ZZZ by YYY
8 mins
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Buy this gets convoluted ..LOL Thanks!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you so much to rfmoon and all of you!
I'm still indecise, but I think I will choose between derived and evolved, thanks to your suggestions I definately got rid of "resumed"!!!
You are all great!!!"
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9 mins
Not resumed
but "taken from", i.e. they have taken or borrowed the concept from another product.
13 mins
from
I'm not sure about the use of the verb "resume" and the choice of verb obvious influences what follows. What is the context. Is this a new version of an old product?
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Note added at 15 mins (2006-05-16 12:55:15 GMT)
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I agree with Clair, "taken from" would be better.
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Note added at 15 mins (2006-05-16 12:55:15 GMT)
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I agree with Clair, "taken from" would be better.
Note from asker:
| it's not exactly a new version of an old product...the subject is the concept, which was developed by a previous concept which gave (in the past) birth to a product that, and this is the twist, is related to the new one but its development is not an improvement made to the old one... I hope I'm clear, I got stuck ... Sorry I would have like to write this to all of you at the beginning of the page, but I don't know how to do it... I'm still a KuodZ "rookie"!! |
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