Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Apr 8, 2008 16:31
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English term
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spoon
English to Norwegian
Medical
Medical: Cardiology
I forbindelse med EKG-utstyr:
spoon-shaped objects that nestle the heart inside patient's open chest
spoon-shaped objects that nestle the heart inside patient's open chest
Proposed translations
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| 5 +2 | skje |
Svein Hartwig Djaerff
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| 5 +1 | spade - spader (they come in pairs) |
Svein Hartwig Djaerff
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| 4 -1 | padleåre |
CG diPierro MD
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Proposed translations
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Svein Hartwig Djaerff
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skje
Skjeformede objekter som...
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Per Bergvall
: well, whyever not...?
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Thomas Deschington (X)
: Selv om medisinsk utstyr har en tendens til å få de merkeligste navn, så tror jeg vi kan kalle en spa... skje for en skje her. // Joda, mente bare at spoon kan vel ikke ha så mange andre betydninger.
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det er vel ikke instrumentet som kalles skje, men formen - skjeformet...
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CG diPierro MD
: paddle is the term in english for the spoon-like devices so "padleåre" is correct.
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Hilde Granlund
: enkelt og greit
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Comment: "Som det sies her, enkelt og greit... Takk for det."
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CG diPierro MD
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English term (edited):
spoon (should be paddle)
padleåre
"paddle" is the term in english for the spoon-like devices so "padleåre" is correct--specifically "internal defibrillator paddle". The only time a defibrillator (ekg machine that can also shock the heart) is used to contact the heart directly is to restart the heart or correct the heart's rhytmn. In other words, the spoon-like devices are not used to get the EKG reading, but to shock the heart.
The devices that actually contact the heart are two steel, spoon-shaped objects called internal paddles in English. These would only be used during open surgery and with Manual Internal Defibrillator machines (see Wikipedia English link) not with automatic implantable internal defibrillators (which are like special pacemakers) which contact the heart via wire electrodes.
The devices that actually contact the heart are two steel, spoon-shaped objects called internal paddles in English. These would only be used during open surgery and with Manual Internal Defibrillator machines (see Wikipedia English link) not with automatic implantable internal defibrillators (which are like special pacemakers) which contact the heart via wire electrodes.
Example sentence:
The heart surgeon placed the paddles on the heart.
Hjertekirurgen plasserte padleårer på hjertet.
Reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defibrillation
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defibrillator#Intern_defibrillator_.28ICD.29
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Thomas Deschington (X)
: Nå står det faktisk spoon-like og ikke paddle, da.//Sier ikke at du tar feil, men viser bare til hva det faktisk står i teksten. Har du noen ref. til bruk av "padleåre" på norsk?
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The first use and most development of defibrillator technology occurred in the US and the related terminology is, therefore, English. The device in question is a paddle or paddle electrode in English; padleåre, paddle (engelsk), eller elektrode på norsk.
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Svein Hartwig Djaerff
: Jeg ser av nettsiden til Norsk Klassifisering, Koding & Nomenklatur (www.nkkn.net) at man bruker uttrykket "skjeformet" ifm. instrumenter ved åpen hjertekirurgi. Ellers liker jeg dårlig bildet av at noen skal stikke padleårer inn i min åpne brystkasse :)
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Helt enig men jeg tror at "skjeformet" er bare en beskrivelse. anebjordal er nordmann og må vet at skje betyr "spoon." Trodde anebjordal leter etter det medisinske ordet på norsk for instrumenten beskrevet i spørsmålet-substantiv, ikke adjektiv,ikke sant?
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Hilde Granlund
: Vennligst ikke stikk padleårer inn i brystkassa mi hvis jeg får hjertestans :S
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Svein Hartwig Djaerff
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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United Kingdom
Lawyer/LL.M/MBA, experienced in many biz
Native in: Norwegian
Works in: English to Norwegian, German to Norwegian, French to Norwegian, and 5 more.
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spade - spader (they come in pairs)
Referring to Charles' last comments on this, I checked this issue with three different suppliers of medical equipment - included heart defibrillators for open heart surgery - and the answers were 100 % conclusive: In Norwegian this spoon-shaped part of the defibrillator is called "spade", plural "spader".
So I guess Thomas was close to the bulls eye when he indicated to "kalle en spade for en spade", right! :) For describing the part, however, I think it would be just as suitable to say "skjeformede objekter" som "spadeformede objekter". And that's my final opinion on this.
So I guess Thomas was close to the bulls eye when he indicated to "kalle en spade for en spade", right! :) For describing the part, however, I think it would be just as suitable to say "skjeformede objekter" som "spadeformede objekter". And that's my final opinion on this.
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Thomas Deschington (X)
: HAHA. There you go... :-)
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Rock & Roll, man! :-)
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CG diPierro MD
: Bra jobbet! I have heard this in use as well. But I imagine that many here don't want either spades or paddles in their chest! Better not to need surgery in the first place.
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