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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

dienst

English translation:

department, service, ward (Medical)

Added to glossary by Bryan Crumpler
Mar 22, 2010 13:50
14 yrs ago
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Dutch term

diensten

Dutch to English Medical Nutrition
"De toermodule wordt dagelijks door de diëtistes gebruikt om de patiënten te bevragen aangaande de door hen gewenste maaltijdkeuzes. Vooraleer er wordt aangevangen met het toeren wordt de offline module gesynchroniseerd met het back-end systeem. Vervolgens wordt de laptop losgekoppeld van het netwerk. Er wordt steeds per dienst getoerd. Bij het toeren gebruiken de diëtistes een patiëntenlijst. Deze afgedrukte lijst wordt door de respectievelijk [diensten] aangevuld met de meest recente wijzigen en opmerkingen. Het gaat dan ondermeer over het verhuizen van een patiënt naar een andere kamer of afdeling, het overlijden van een patiënt, informatie mbt de maaltijden (MEALS) aangaande een geplande of uitgevoerde medische ingreep, wijziging van het dieet, etc … Het nieuwe systeem wordt enerzijds gevoed met gegevens van de centrale patiëntendatabank en anderzijds kunnen de [diensten] zelf via een webinterface opmerkingen en dieetsuggesties doen voor een patiënt. Maw, de handgeschreven opmerkingen op de lijst zullen tot een absoluut minimum terug gedrongen worden."


I don't see how "diensten" makes sense in either of the 2 spots where it appears.

I'm guessing this is a typo for "dietisten" (an alternative and correct plural for "dietistes"), but the client (i.e. the agency, not the end-client who wrote it) insists that they mean "shifts" here.

I can't help but disagree. Does anyone concur, or am I missing something completely?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +6 Department or Service
3 +2 shifts
4 services

Discussion

Barend van Zadelhoff Mar 22, 2010:
@ writeaway "Deze afgedrukte lijst wordt door de respectievelijk [diensten] aangevuld met de meest recente wijzigen en opmerkingen"

yes, the departments provide information about moving patients to other departments, about alterations of diet, about whether a patient will not be in the department during a meal (examination, surgery)
writeaway Mar 22, 2010:
don't lose site of the (con)text with all these suggestions.
anderzijds kunnen de [diensten] zelf via een webinterface opmerkingen en dieetsuggesties doen voor een patiënt.
Deze afgedrukte lijst wordt door de respectievelijk [diensten] aangevuld met de meest recente wijzigen en opmerkingen
Barend van Zadelhoff Mar 22, 2010:
department "verhuizen van een patient naar een andere afdeling, etc." is something that is determined by a department
and "via een webinterface etc." is something that is done by a department as well
Iris Shalev Mar 22, 2010:
'diensten' who are making suggestions..? ... and filling in lists? That must be a mistake. Surely the agency must see that too? Maybe the client themselves can shed light on this, or is the agency unwilling to contact them?
I think your suggestion is the only thing that makes sense, but how to make other people think the same way..?
writeaway Mar 22, 2010:
I think you're right but the agency (proofreading) aces generally think they know best. sometimes not asking is the best way to go

Proposed translations

+6
36 mins
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Department or Service

In my experience of medical translation, which is extensive, the word "dienst" in this context almost invariably means a department of a hospital. For example, Cardiology would be a dienst and Gastroenterology would be another dienst. In practical terms the cardiology service will be housed on one ward and the gastroenterology service on another. My understanding of your passage is that the dieticians tour from ward to ward taking instructions from the various "diensten" with regard to their patients. Although the meaning of the word diensten is department or service, in practice the English word "ward" would be applicable here, because that is the physical location of the dienst.
Peer comment(s):
agree Nicole Snoek (X) : definitely, in this context I would read 'dienst' as 'afdeling' in the hospital
11 mins
Thanks, Nicole
agree Tina Vonhof (X)
13 mins
Thanks, Tina
agree Barend van Zadelhoff
50 mins
Thanks, Barend
agree Verginia Ophof
1 hr
Thanks, Verginia
agree Marijke Singer : department
20 hrs
Thanks, Marijke
agree sindy cremer : department, without a doubt
23 hrs
Thanks, Sindy
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+2
8 mins

shifts

At first sight I though 'other departments (services)' in the hospital/clinic was meant, but after reading your comment I agree with 'shifts'. The whole idea behind the 'toermodule' (toer is more or less 'shift'), as far as I understand it, is to keep track of all the changes relating to a particular client. Since the 'diëtisten' apparantly work in shifts, any relevant changes have to be incorporated into the module by these different shifts. So, the service area remains identical, but there are various shifts.

Does that make sense?
Peer comment(s):
neutral Barend van Zadelhoff : Met Nicole, bij nader lezen (vanwege het voorstel van Textpertise) is afdeling veel logischer
1 min
agree Iris Shalev : You could be right... but it is worded very awkwardly (the text I mean, not your anwer! :)
6 mins
I would not say 'very akwardly' ;-), but it could have been worded clearer.
agree AlainProvist : As a native speaker of the Dutch language, I can only agree with the aforementioned answers: in this case, 'shifts' is the most appropriate translation.
13 mins
neutral writeaway : how can a shift add to a list?? the dietitians working the shift can but a shift can't /but shift alone doesn't work in English.
13 mins
Naturally they mean the people working the shift. 'Shift' is a generally used word in Dutch, but the English translation may need a clarification off course.
neutral Nicole Snoek (X) : dat dacht ik eerst ook, maar na nog een keer lezen zie ik dienst hier niet als shift maar als afdeling
39 mins
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37 mins

services

Diensten here are "all service providers" or "services" and not just shifts. The whole purpose of the central data bank is to record all information about the patient.
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